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Mono
Mar 27, 2021 9:48:38 GMT
Post by davy on Mar 27, 2021 9:48:38 GMT
Still in lock down and fed up 😁 Work really not going well, So need to cheer myself up, so been looking at the portable set up and the Canon 5d is hardly portable with the battery grip fitted,, so I've always fancied mono,, don't get me wrong colour is great but,, I keep coming across mono images and I'm drawn to them more,, think this comes back to when I do photography I like taking the colour out and getting a mono image.. I know I can turn images to mono.
So is it worth getting a mono zwo camera. I've been looking at the zwo 120 mini,, it's usb2 but compatable with the asiair Pro,, the 120 usb3 has more to offer for about £30 more I like the idea of two zwo camera's on the portable kit. And with the Canon 5d full frame I don't need to look at a focal reducer for the Williams zenithstar 61.. Hence that allows me to look at second zwo,, CHeap ones,, 😁
Resigned myself to the fact this year has been a wash out and concentrating on August,, got to be ready to go from day one,, mmm said that last year 😒 But to be fair the lighting in the industrial estate opposite my flat has increased to the point of,, I won't get any use out of the bigger stuff. And when covid is kicked into touch, I may sell a lot of kit, 😭, thee heq5, sw explorer 200pds, evostar ed80, allview mount, If I do I will use the money on another Williams optics scope,, probably the redcat
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Mono
Mar 27, 2021 9:58:27 GMT
Post by davy on Mar 27, 2021 9:58:27 GMT
😁,,, scratch the redcat, 😀 forgot I had the sw 50ed guide scope,, its not far off the redcat spec,, probably not as good,, but,, not enough for me to splash out on,
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Mono
Mar 27, 2021 12:04:19 GMT
Post by Dragon Man on Mar 27, 2021 12:04:19 GMT
Davy, if you really want to do Mono imaging you should buy a dedicated Mono camera.
Converting a colour image to Mono is nowhere near the quality of a real Mono sensor. The difference is very obvious when you see dedicated Mono and converted Mono images next to each other. Converted colour images can suffer as much as 2 thirds loss of signal!
A colour sensor is just a Mono sensor with a Bayer Matrix over top of it blocking 30 - 50 per cent of the light, and diluting the detail.
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Post by davy on Mar 27, 2021 16:33:22 GMT
Cheers Ken,, ties up with what I had thought,, but it's good to get feedback
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Mono
Mar 27, 2021 22:08:29 GMT
Post by jaybee on Mar 27, 2021 22:08:29 GMT
I have the zwo 290 mono which is very sensitive. It is the camera I use on the rasa for galaxies. It gives me the best detail for those dimmer objects.
Took the esprit 80 and the eqm35 mount with me on holiday.Was happy with that combo .Got 2 good nights and managed to show our friends a lot of the brighter DSO's. They are always disappointed that we cant show planets in real time on the screen.
cheers Paul
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Post by davy on Mar 29, 2021 15:26:32 GMT
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Post by davy on Mar 29, 2021 21:10:45 GMT
Clouded out tonight,, but was having a good look at the kit that will makeup portable kit,, and,,, I think I'm just about finished 😁 at last. I was working out how the kit would look with two zwo cameras on it,, and size wise to scopes,, I think I'm at as small a set as I will get, Williams optics zenithstar 61 and zwo 178 mc Skywatcher 50ed and zwo 120 mono. Controlled by the asiair Pro. Pleased with the configuration,, Plenty of options kit wise now.
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Mono
Mar 31, 2021 12:02:55 GMT
Post by davy on Mar 31, 2021 12:02:55 GMT
New camera arrived
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Mono
Mar 31, 2021 12:29:38 GMT
Post by davy on Mar 31, 2021 12:29:38 GMT
Astronomy spending,, finished Spent a hell of a lot over the last year
Skywatcher esprit ed80 Esprit field flatner S/h Canon 5d mk2 10" android tablet Asiair Pro Skywatcher 50ed guide scope William optics z61 mk2 Zwo 120mm usb3 camera.
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Mono
Mar 31, 2021 13:58:33 GMT
Post by Dragon Man on Mar 31, 2021 13:58:33 GMT
LOL!!! "Eventually"
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Mono
Mar 31, 2021 20:44:05 GMT
via mobile
Post by davy on Mar 31, 2021 20:44:05 GMT
Stuck the new camera on the asiair,, aaargh,, this is a pain in the backside, you only need to twitch an eyebrow and it loses WiFi,,, this is something zwo needs to sort out or it's hardly WiFi control,, ok there are WiFi units folk are adding to get it to work better,, but let's be honest,, why should you need to,,, doesn't exactly do as it says on the tin.
OK it was nearly dark by time I got my dinner and tried setting up the asiair and pitch dark by the time I said stuff it and connected the 120 mono to my laptop and used asicap, The William z61 needed a long focal extension tube to get back focus with the 120,,no big deal,, but looks bloody stupid in my view,, small telescope and long focal extension,, no wonder new folk to the game post in forums,, I can't seem to focus or see anything with my camera,, no bloody wonder,, 😁 You need to buy another £25 extension 😭 To the camera 😔 Unlike my 178mc,, to have correct view,, cable faces Downwards,, the 120,, it's facing upwards 😕 on the z61. Some banding on the screen,, from the image like light streaks,, Need to look into this a bit further in daylight image
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Mono
Mar 31, 2021 20:44:40 GMT
Post by davy on Mar 31, 2021 20:44:40 GMT
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Post by davy on Mar 31, 2021 20:46:10 GMT
The brain of my life,, one of the three floodlights the light up half of cumbernauld,, off tonight,, for a change
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Mono
Apr 1, 2021 13:58:25 GMT
Post by Dragon Man on Apr 1, 2021 13:58:25 GMT
The brain of my life,, one of the three floodlights the light up half of cumbernauld,, off tonight,, for a change At least you got good sharp focus. Going to be great on the sky
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Mono
Apr 2, 2021 12:14:47 GMT
Post by jaybee on Apr 2, 2021 12:14:47 GMT
Davy, my ASIair is not getting much use at all.The plan is to use it at star nights at Heathecote but I havent been out there for 18 months. Havent spent much on new equipment at all over the last 12 months. I have got too much stuff that I dont use already Used the zwo 290 mono on the rasa and the zwo 294 on the ed 72 tonight. The 294 on the ed 72 is fairly wide field so I only captured the bigger objects like Eta Carina on that system. Captured a few of the regular galaxies like the hamburger and ngc 1365 on the mono but nothing worth posting.
It was just nice to sit down with a glass of red with a clear sky.
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Mono
Apr 2, 2021 13:13:12 GMT
Post by davy on Apr 2, 2021 13:13:12 GMT
Still need to work out the asiair Pro,, need to sit down with a tutorial from utube, gave it a brief go but, not impressed by its WiFi capability,, twitch an eyebrow and it loses connection. I would like to see the asiair app developed more for video astronomy,, instead of quide camera,, have the second camera capture in tandem to main scope, For myself looking at it for a portable scope set up,, having mono 120 and colour 178 on either the z61 or 50ed both doing captures would be more interesting for me,
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