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Post by davy on Apr 12, 2020 21:04:19 GMT
So now got a bit of how what,, where and why,, raspberry pi and astroberry are all about. Next project is the portable kit.
For this I have two set ups,
The skywatcher star adventurer,, not even going to get into this as it should be a no brainer,, its only going to be for remote camera control as its already a tracking platform.
The skywatcher az gti,,, hopefully mine still works, it's been that long since I used it, please,,, no hassles wae this
It's a very popular mount,, it has is own built in WiFi,, so will it be able to get controlled via raspberry??? I can plug a hnd controller in and try it that way, It's a learning curve,, I can control the mount via my phone app or a tablet,, and just control the camera via the raspberry,, so not really a big issue,, Bit of an experiment
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Post by davy on Apr 13, 2020 10:33:30 GMT
Formatted the sd card and flashed a clean install of astroberry to the card,, all set up fine. Went into the indi library and selected synscan mount. Went into k stars and made a new profile, Surprisingly it didn't work. I finally got the ip address from the azgti and put ip address in kstars, Still nothing.. Don't how the az gti is set up,, with the WiFi,, does it disconnect when a handset is connected,, on my eq3 Pro I had handset connected and adapter added to control from laptop,, def not going back to those days,, Was worth a try,, Will just work WiFi from the phone, and camera control via smartphone in meantime.
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Post by davy on Apr 13, 2020 10:36:53 GMT
Mmm, just remembered my hot-spot shuts down when I connect to the azgti,, so will need phone to connect laptop and raspberry and my tablet to control mount, can live with that
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Post by oldstash on Apr 13, 2020 10:55:52 GMT
The problem with RPI WiFi and the SW AZ GTI is that you have to have only one WiFi AP - especially when using RPI in HotSpot mode - back to client server approach this time for Wifi.
Dont have a GTI but as I understand it by default it acts as a AP HotSpot (server mode) - therefore if thats the mode your GTI is in then you have to make the RPI join the GTI nework. This way both will be on the same network - e.g. GTI might be 192.168.2.1 and it may give the RPI an address of 192.168.2.10 - thats fine as they both are on he same IP network of 192.168.2.x In this mode the GTI is the Network Access Poin Server
The other way is to change the GTI to "Client" Mode and as far as I am aware this can only be done via Synscan App (might be wrong) - Here the RPI (assuming) can act as a Hotspot server and it allocated the IP address to the GTI - e.g. RPI 10.42.0.1 GTI maight be 10.42.0.10 that would be fine as hey are both on the same IP Network of 10.42.0.x
The last way is to connect both the RPI and the GTI to a host network (like your home router) - that way both will get there IP addresses from your Home system (normally a router). Disadvantage using this mode is that you cant do that out in the field.
However this is where the wired ethernet connection comes in - here you can best of both worlds - RPI wireless set up as a HOTSPOT,GTI as a cleint connected to the RPI Hotspot and a wired connection to the RPI. So here you would have the RPI on 10.42.0.1 , the GTI as 10.42.0.10 but the RPI will also get another address from he "wired" network - lets say 192.168.2.20. In this situation you should be able to connect to the RPI via VNC in 2 ways by using 10.42.0.1 (after joining ASTROBERRY hotspot) or by using "Wired" address 192.168.2.20 from VNC or Web Browser. I tend to use this approach as it leaves my WiFi on the RPI alone and things stays the same. So when I go "out in the field" I just use the RPI Hotpot which will always be there.
IMHO if you are going to use the RPI and GTI as a grab and go just stick with one set up else it gets bloody confusing!
Note to use "other" devices connect to the RPI they also have to be on the same IP address network else they will never connect.
Thats a lot to take in !
Maybe some people (not talking to anyone in particularly) should have a good talk to themselves and say "do I want the hassle" - if not buy an Asair Pro or a NUC Type Mini (i5 or I7,8gb plus,240gb ssd) with Windows 10/Ascom - both far simpler and the latter is far faster and has more benefits e.g. inbuilt SSD, >8gb memory and only ยฃ100ish more expansive than the ASIair Pro. Sorry for being blunt. If still up for it I will try and help as much as I can just have patience LOL
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Post by davy on Apr 13, 2020 11:46:47 GMT
Yip, way you explained it was my idea of how it would work,, that's why I got the azgti ip address.. I'm sure I saw something on the app about modes,, will capture and post
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 11:50:47 GMT
My apologies Stash. cheers Paul
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Post by davy on Apr 13, 2020 11:53:27 GMT
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Post by davy on Apr 13, 2020 12:01:36 GMT
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Post by davy on Apr 13, 2020 12:03:37 GMT
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Post by oldstash on Apr 13, 2020 12:13:02 GMT
yep that the Synscan App method to change a SW Wifi adapter - guess its he same for GTI (bet it just has the adaper inside LOL )
Dont put Wifi kit too close (> 2m) together else you will get problems similar to your metal case issue!
With all your kit you are a one man band testing station LOL !
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Post by davy on Apr 13, 2020 12:30:25 GMT
Lol,, no heard that before, Ken said I could kit out an Observatory once,, I have been collecting for 9 years,, ๐
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Post by oldstash on Apr 13, 2020 12:34:59 GMT
LOL! This pictorial may help!
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Post by oldstash on Apr 13, 2020 12:41:00 GMT
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Post by davy on Apr 13, 2020 13:50:55 GMT
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Post by oldstash on Apr 13, 2020 14:22:26 GMT
You already have that with Astroberry - thats what I call a HOTSPOT - Astroberry's default (without changes having been made!) is called ASTROBERRY - you should see this when you scan for WiFi networks from,for example,from a WiFi laptop. Note if you have changed Astroberry Wifi ,by adding your own Wifi, then if it finds your defined/added network first and it will use that first and NOT start a HOTSPOT. So either switch off your local Wifi that you nay have added to the Astroberry - then it will (should) start an Hotspot called Astroberry - honest. I recommend using wired ethernet when at home to do testing changes etc with just Astroberry WiFi HOTSPOT - no other Wifi;s to be added to Astroberry - it make life simpler honest!
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Post by oldstash on Apr 13, 2020 15:01:54 GMT
To show you what I mean here is my Desktop (that has wired and wireless) - I am attached via VNC to PI (Astroberry) via the wired IP address I have then connected to the HOTSPOT of the Astroberry from Windows (so I have 2 access ways to the PI) and then used my Windows Browser to connect to the PI only using the HOTSPOT IP ADDRESS. Notice both are running quite happily. Hope that helps !
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Post by davy on Apr 13, 2020 15:19:01 GMT
OK,, flew right over me parts. I have seen the astroberry in the WiFi connection and seen astroberry connecting to it,, when my phone hot spot isn't on,, ,,, the going around in circles bit๐) I'm no wanting to start using network cable in learning curve,, as I will never use it, My goal for in the house is complete,,, just need flexi drive coupler to sort out hitecastro focuser, Happy with running cdc and ccdciel and astap,, just a learning curve in software, Plan is to get home broadband in the house and connect to raspberry pi, If I'm out at band I have a laptop and seen I can set up a capture remotely. Job done.
Next set up,, portable, Can either be azgti or star adventure, and dslr. Want to use camera and lens through the raspberry, full control would be nice. From warm car,, Looking at fast set up times for this
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Post by oldstash on Apr 13, 2020 15:40:02 GMT
Ok then you will have to switch off/on the Phone Hotspot to test the Grab and GO rig(switch off Phone Hotspot) or download software updates (Switch ON Phone Hotspot). It will work !
But you still have to sort out how you are going to incorporate, use or change the GTI WiFi mode (e.g. PI or GTI to be Hotspot) - cant help you on the Star Adventurer front never even looked at one !
There are some other things but too much info for now :-)
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Post by oldstash on Apr 13, 2020 15:44:53 GMT
Maybe, for now at least ,you had better stick with running Kstars/Ekos all on the PI and just VNC to the PI. You should be able to use your DSLR/GTI/PI for the Grab and GO. Quick to set up.
Then maybe look at alternatives later if you dont get on with Kstars/Ekos :-)
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Post by davy on Apr 13, 2020 19:10:00 GMT
I will keep researching it, and see what happens about August time,, probably will even just settle to the fact that the portable kit will be hard wired to camera and use backyard eos,, hell it it may be less bother in log run,, was worth a day looking at the option,,, so at present I don't see it as a failure.
The star adventure is a clock drive mount,, turn a dial nd it just tracks after polar alignment
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