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Post by howie1 on Dec 31, 2019 0:10:18 GMT
Bintel here in Australia has them for order and also has a nice clear feature list with supported camera's (including DSLR list) as well as screen shots showing all the features. Just letting cash reserves build back up after three years of reno's and such, so should be pulling the pin and ordering one very shortly. Cannot wait to try the DSLR support as well as the live stacking features! ps. Mate Tony has one on order as does the bloke (Paul) who showed me his version 1 ASIAIR which I reviewed a week or so ago and posted about his workflow on the forum. Cheers www.bintel.com.au/product/zwo-asiair-pro-2/?v=6cc98ba2045f
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 1:55:59 GMT
Thanks for that Howie. It certainly is a big upgrade on the version 1. The U card is 64gig rather than the previous 32. The Bintel site says there is 86 gig of storage. Howie,does that mean the images can be saved on a usb stick? Paul
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Post by howie1 on Dec 31, 2019 5:35:30 GMT
Sorry Paul, I'm not sure. I called Bintel today as I wanted to ask about special deal with the 120 guider and miniguidescope but Bintel is closed today and tomorrow. I'll call them when they reopen and try to remember to ask them about the 86Gb storage.
Cheers
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Post by howie1 on Jan 24, 2020 22:42:29 GMT
Reposting what I just put up on CN ...
I've thought about getting an ASIAIR for EAA, as I only occasionally stack frames - so a single image stretch which can be done using the ASIAIR would work for me ... maybe? I'm awaiting the soon to be released AISR PRO which does stacking (as well as support DSLRs) and see what users say about it before I plonk down my money. However, I've actually watched several people who do AP using the AIR, and they all say that while the App which controls it will run on a smartphone ... you really have to install the App on a tablet. There's too much stuff displayed on such a small screen as a smartphone, so the bigger the device - the better. The apps menu's are all around the edges of the screen, and there's heaps of them as it will control camera, preview window, autoguider, focuser, filterwheel, run sequence, settings, display, and when showing the image also show histogram. As the icons have to be a decent size for fingers as well as histogram being a decent size ... you can imagine how tiny the actual image is on a smartphone. So they all use large tablets instead.
But ... I already own a PC and a laptop so I really do not wish to have to buy a large tablet to run it! So I investigated emulators for my laptop and pc. Haven't done it though ... because I havent bought an AIR nor an AIR PRO. I'm still uncertain and await early adopters of the PRO to get theirs and tell us all if it is any good.
But, in case anyone on the forum owns one or hadn't already thought of running the AIR (or AIR PRO) on their PC, link below.
Rutger Bus (?) used Bluestacks to download and run the ASIAIR app on his PC. Along with SkySafari for full goto etc. So heaps of PC / laptop screen real-estate to run the app inside while the scope and ASIAIR box is outside. Link to the video is below.
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Post by davy on Jan 25, 2020 5:13:40 GMT
Came across this very problem using my smartphone,, and apps,, I use what you say.. Smartphone to control the mount and a windows based tablet to control capture, I had an inclination this would be the case with the asair pro,,. The raspberry pi4 I have bought I'm taking to the next step to see if adding a 3.5" screen on it will be of use,, to help set up the scope /mount. At the mount but will be linked to my tablet/ laptop combo using Windows,, Now as we know the asiair Pro is the raspberry pi4, and zwo has its unique software and not believed to be reversed engineered as yet lol,, makes it too rigid for my personal use,, so I'm hoping open source is the way. Maybe wrong.. I have no idea what I'm doing but hopefully something will click into place but There are options with the pi system,, windows 10 can be put on it I've read,, So going back a year or so,,, the pc stick was a tried experiment,, good concept but the size of the kit was growing,, powered USB hub had to be added,, power source, screen ect.. Was hardly portable by time I was finished.. So with my new approach with what you see in above image,, can go Linux way or Windows,, either way its a compact computer and screen,, could go independent route and add software that I can find,, add stellarmate for £38, put in windows 10 and add backyard eos,, canon utilities,, astrotoaster,, cartes du ciel.. And link to my tablet,, all from a compact unit with a screen at the scope. Well half a plan 😁 Now this is on the 1gb version on the video,, its the 4gb version that I will be using
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Post by howie1 on Jan 25, 2020 15:40:09 GMT
So with my new approach with what you see in above image,, can go Linux way or Windows,, either way its a compact computer and screen,, could go independent route and add software that I can find,, add stellarmate for £38, put in windows 10 and add backyard eos,, canon utilities,, astrotoaster,, cartes du ciel.. And link to my tablet,, all from a compact unit with a screen at the scope. Yes, your approach will be equipment independent. Won't have to be ZWO. But you may find the exact same problem as what I posted about. You may find the tablet display is too small to display all that software running all at once on your Pi at the scope. You may find you need the larger screen of a laptop to remotely operate the Pi box at the scope. (What that guy did for the ZWO smart app which remotely operates the AIR pi box at the scope). It's hard to accurately move sliders and press buttons and see guide graphs at the same time as stacking histogram at the same time as the image window if the screen is small. Anyhow, hope it all goes well and look forward to watching you post up the build process and final results. You have more patience and tech skills than me! All the best davy.
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Post by davy on Jan 25, 2020 19:00:57 GMT
So with my new approach with what you see in above image,, can go Linux way or Windows,, either way its a compact computer and screen,, could go independent route and add software that I can find,, add stellarmate for £38, put in windows 10 and add backyard eos,, canon utilities,, astrotoaster,, cartes du ciel.. And link to my tablet,, all from a compact unit with a screen at the scope. Yes, your approach will be equipment independent. Won't have to be ZWO. But you may find the exact same problem as what I posted about. You may find the tablet display is too small to display all that software running all at once on your Pi at the scope. You may find you need the larger screen of a laptop to remotely operate the Pi box at the scope. (What that guy did for the ZWO smart app which remotely operates the AIR pi box at the scope). It's hard to accurately move sliders and press buttons and see guide graphs at the same time as stacking histogram at the same time as the image window if the screen is small. Anyhow, hope it all goes well and look forward to watching you post up the build process and final results. You have more patience and tech skills than me! All the best davy. Always planned on using a laptop,, the bigger the screen the better in my opinion,, the pi set up with screen is just for adjustment at scope,, save trying to juggle stuff. Once I get rest of kit will post my progress,, absolutely nothing to lose on this project,, if I find its not to my liking the pi can c be used for other projects that's the beauty of it
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 4:20:36 GMT
On Saturday night I went to a Dark Sky night at the ASV site which is 1/2 hr drive up the road. Conditions were fantastic.
After setting my gear up,I have the choice of moving the car to the car park 200m away or leaving it in the observing area for the night so I dont shine white light on the other observers. So,if I am planning on going home that night, I have to carry my gear a couple of hundred metres up the path with my red light. I have enough trouble just walking that distance with a dim red light let alone carrying a lot of gear.
The ideal get up and go setup for me in that situation is the AZ-GT mount with the SW ED72 and the ASIair and Ipad. Light and easy.
Well, dumb dumb here took the EQ3,Esprit 80 and laptop. It is still a fairly lightweight system,but too much trouble over 200m in the dark so I stayed the night. Facilities are pretty good out there. 8 rooms each with 4 bunk beds were constructed last year but i would rather go home.
The point of this blurb, is just to emphasize why I am so keen on tha ASIair for the get up and go . Much less to carry and setup. cheers Paul
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Post by howie1 on Jan 27, 2020 13:28:32 GMT
On Saturday night I went to a Dark Sky night at the ASV site which is 1/2 hr drive up the road. Conditions were fantastic. After setting my gear up,I have the choice of moving the car to the car park 200m away or leaving it in the observing area for the night so I dont shine white light on the other observers. So,if I am planning on going home that night, I have to carry my gear a couple of hundred metres up the path with my red light. I have enough trouble just walking that distance with a dim red light let alone carrying a lot of gear. The ideal get up and go setup for me in that situation is the AZ-GT mount with the SW ED72 and the ASIair and Ipad. Light and easy. Well, dumb dumb here took the EQ3,Esprit 80 and laptop. It is still a fairly lightweight system,but too much trouble over 200m in the dark so I stayed the night. Facilities are pretty good out there. 8 rooms each with 4 bunk beds were constructed last year but i would rather go home. The point of this blurb, is just to emphasize why I am so keen on tha ASIair for the get up and go . Much less to carry and setup. cheers Paul Thumbsup Paul I too am waiting on your PRO arrival .... so you can post your verdict! LOL!
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