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Post by davy on Apr 16, 2017 11:36:30 GMT
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Post by davy on Apr 16, 2017 21:37:06 GMT
Like the look of this camera😂
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Post by Dragon Man on Apr 17, 2017 10:36:01 GMT
I'm surprised that they are pushing this camera as a Video Astronomy camera when it's maximum exposure is only 5 seconds.
5 seconds is fine on ultra sensitive cameras with larger pixels. Little cameras like the latest Revolution Imager R2 only go to 5 seconds but this 1" sensor beastie has tiny 2.4um pixels. Fantastic as an Imager. But for Video it will require stacking.
Maybe camera vendors are seeing the growth in popularity of Video Astronomy and think that if they tack 'Video Astronomy/EAA' onto each cameras description that they will sell more of them.
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Post by davy on Apr 17, 2017 11:57:41 GMT
I'm actually thinking that the norm is stacking these days instead of slow shutter integration,,more and more I look at cameras I just think astrotoaster,, would like to see the kind of control you get on a DSLR incorporated into video cameras,, adjustment on ISO and shutter speeds.
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Post by Dragon Man on Apr 17, 2017 12:26:20 GMT
I'm actually thinking that the norm is stacking these days instead of slow shutter integration,,more and more I look at cameras I just think astrotoaster,, would like to see the kind of control you get on a DSLR incorporated into video cameras,, adjustment on ISO and shutter speeds. Yeah, DSLR settings would help. But why not just use the DSLR Pity stacking has become the norm. I see images posted around the net saying 'Near-Live image - 50 stacks x 60 seconds frames'. That's not near-live. That's 50 minutes of Imaging!
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Post by davy on Apr 17, 2017 12:52:50 GMT
you did ask, lol. in my opinion the humble dslr is making a comeback and is a great tool linked to byeos and astrotoaster,and the software side now really makes it a great tool not only for astrophotography but video as well,,, so why am I looking for more,,, well if we could get it to stay cooler it would be better, yip the stacking just makes it astrophotography or eaa,, or whatever we call it..... but I personally like the bit that im doing both,,,, astrophotography,,tried it and it bores me to tears,`looking at a blank screen and `checking settings and doing this for half an hour in the cold..un appealing video astronomy,,better,live views and keeps you intrested and then the stuff I do,,backyard eos, I can loop on planetary mode and its video astronomy and run it in astrotoaster and give me a decent stacked image and on astrophotography setting it gives me a good finish to the night getting some images` so what kind of astronomy do I do? ??
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Post by ChrisV on Apr 17, 2017 14:21:01 GMT
+1 on astrotoaster.
I use sharpcap a lot. It's great cause is really easy to use. USB Camera control, aquisition, stacking and stretching all in one.
But I've had both running side-by-side and still can't get it to make images look as nice as astrotoaster does on the fly.
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Post by Dragon Man on Apr 17, 2017 14:29:10 GMT
+1 on astrotoaster. I use sharpcap a lot. It's great cause is really easy to use. USB Camera control, aquisition, stacking and stretching all in one. But I've had both running side-by-side and still can't get it to make images look as nice as astrotoaster does on the fly. The Touptek software does all that too, and has auto image guiding for people without a guiding set up (called 'Align Frames'), and it works great. I used it last night on Jupiter I've never tried Astrotoaster. To be honest, I have no idea what it is even though I keep reading about people using it. I really must go have a look at what it is
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Post by ChrisV on Apr 17, 2017 14:37:38 GMT
Can you download the Touptek software and use it if you don't have one of their cameras ?
I must try it !
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Post by Dragon Man on Apr 17, 2017 14:48:28 GMT
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Post by howie1 on Apr 18, 2017 0:07:23 GMT
I've never tried Astrotoaster. To be honest, I have no idea what it is even though I keep reading about people using it. I really must go have a look at what it is If you've watched my desktop capture Live EAA video's Ken, then you should have seen Toaster in action. Cheers Howie
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Post by Dragon Man on Apr 18, 2017 12:28:05 GMT
Yes Howie, I watched your videos, but I didn't watch what you were doing software-wise. I tend to only look at what Object appears on a person's screen, not how they achieved the result And often I have the sound turned off, so if you were explaining what you were doing, I didn't hear it I did go have a read of the Astrotoaster website last night though, and after reading through all the dribble on his home page then reading the 'User Manual' on the 'User Guide' page I have easily decided that it doesn't suit my style or my needs. I am a big proponent of 'KISS'. 'Keep It Simple Stupid'. Astrotoaster requires other software to make it run, and it also sounds very user un-friendly to use. Reading through all the steps in the User manual was exhausting without actually doing it Astrotoaster sounds more like an Imaging Aid more than a Live Observing aid. Not for me, but thanks anyway Howie
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