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Post by johnno on Jul 29, 2014 15:15:10 GMT
One of these as just come thru the post when I'm at the mount with the laptop my wifi signal into the backyard is pretty poor only 1 or 2 bars and thats only about 4ft away from the rear of the house and have on the odd occasion its dropped out while broadcasting so I saw this on www.ebuyer.com/632824-trendnet-wireless-n300-high-power-easy-n-range-extender-tew-737hre and at only £14.98 I thought I'll give it a go, I've heard good and bad reports about them but for that price its not a lot to lose. First impressions, I'm quite surprised how easy it was to get up and running, plugged it into a wall socket then go to my router, press the WPS button and then press the WPS button on the extender and about 15 seconds later its hooked up and secured to the router. Some reviewer's have slated this extender saying they couldn't understand the instructions and had to call customer support. All i can say about that is that they are donkeys. Next stage was which wall socket to use for the extender, I decided to try one in the garage and thought this might be pushing it a bit because of the low signal from the router to the backyard, but it did make a connection and not only that I have now full signal strength all the way to the back fence. I've not yet tested it when broadcasting to see if it does drop out or not, but all in all I think its a good buy
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 20:23:32 GMT
Sounds good Johnno, but why couldn't you have just hardwired the laptop to the router.?
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Post by johnno on Jul 29, 2014 23:38:55 GMT
Hi Allan, the router is in the front room and next to the Tv set top box and its not in the best place and its hard wired to my pc upstairs and I didn't want to have a cable going all thru the house. Its just one less cable to use. Its just to much of a hassle to move the router as the tv / broadband cables are hidden in the walls, floor and skirting boards
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Post by Dragon Man on Jul 30, 2014 5:07:54 GMT
I am at a loss as to what to say. You lose Wi-Fi signal within your own backyard?! Then I read the messages left by people at the bottom of that link and they need this device in their house to get Wi-Fi from one room to another!! I don't understand this because I thought my Wi-Fi was bad when its signal starts to drop off beyond 100 metres (over 300 feet). I was under the impression that all Wi-Fi went 100 metres or more. I occasionally have done a broadcast from our Clubroom which is about 140 metres from the Router in my House. My Router is in my Dining Room which is in the centre of my house and the signal has to go through 2 walls just to leave the house. Even in my back paddock I get full bars. Both my old Router and my new one reach over 100M (320 feet). My old Router is: Netgear N-300 WNR-2000 v2 www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Wireless-Router-N300-WNR2000/dp/B001AZP8EWand my new one is an ADSL T-Gateway supplied by Telstra (our Telephone Provider): www.telstra.com.au/connectedhome/enhancements/getwifi/#tab-adsl
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 5:25:39 GMT
I am at a loss as to what to say. You lose Wi-Fi signal within your own backyard?! Then I read the messages left by people at the bottom of that link and they need this device in their house to get Wi-Fi from one room to another!! I don't understand this because I thought my Wi-Fi was bad when its signal starts to drop off beyond 100 metres (over 300 feet). I was under the impression that all Wi-Fi went 100 metres or more. I occasionally have done a broadcast from our Clubroom which is about 140 metres from the Router in my House. My Router is in my Dining Room which is in the centre of my house and the signal has to go through 2 walls just to leave the house. Even in my back paddock I get full bars. Both my old Router and my new one reach over 100M (320 feet). My old Router is: Netgear N-300 WNR-2000 v2 www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Wireless-Router-N300-WNR2000/dp/B001AZP8EWand my new one is an ADSL T-Gateway supplied by Telstra (our Telephone Provider): www.telstra.com.au/connectedhome/enhancements/getwifi/#tab-adsl Hi Ken, In Tasmania we have four types of Internet connection and speeds, Wet String or Dry String, Short String or Long String, A quality made tin can at each end also helps with how frequent drop-outs don't happen.
Clear skies... Shevill
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Post by Dragon Man on Jul 30, 2014 6:41:22 GMT
I am at a loss as to what to say. You lose Wi-Fi signal within your own backyard?! Then I read the messages left by people at the bottom of that link and they need this device in their house to get Wi-Fi from one room to another!! I don't understand this because I thought my Wi-Fi was bad when its signal starts to drop off beyond 100 metres (over 300 feet). I was under the impression that all Wi-Fi went 100 metres or more. I occasionally have done a broadcast from our Clubroom which is about 140 metres from the Router in my House. My Router is in my Dining Room which is in the centre of my house and the signal has to go through 2 walls just to leave the house. Even in my back paddock I get full bars. Both my old Router and my new one reach over 100M (320 feet). My old Router is: Netgear N-300 WNR-2000 v2 www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Wireless-Router-N300-WNR2000/dp/B001AZP8EWand my new one is an ADSL T-Gateway supplied by Telstra (our Telephone Provider): www.telstra.com.au/connectedhome/enhancements/getwifi/#tab-adsl Hi Ken, In Tasmania we have four types of Internet connection and speeds, Wet String or Dry String, Short String or Long String, A quality made tin can at each end also helps with how frequent drop-outs don't happen.
Clear skies... ShevillFunny but sadly true Shevill. I understand that Tasmania's Broadband is even worse than the mainland. But Wi-Fi shouldn't be any different. It is a radio signal. The NBN should help with broadband if you have it in your area yet. Expensive but fast.
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Post by johnno on Jul 30, 2014 9:22:28 GMT
I haven't a clue Ken why the range is so short over here . The only thing I can think of is that they have shorten the range over here in their wifi devices because of the houses being so close to each other as not to get interference, and also where to place the router as a effect on range and mine is in a poor position about a foot of the ground and tucked up next to a internal wall, it needs to be out in the open, plus all the internal walls are brick not plaster board.
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Post by Dragon Man on Jul 30, 2014 11:17:51 GMT
Ahhh, that would explain it John. A Router is supposed to be mounted fairly high and in an open area. And yeah, brick wouldn't help. Yes, you could be right about the restriction. Your country's Telecommunications Regulations probably stipulate a short distance or the whole neighbourhood could tap into one router. Makes for cheap Internet for a whole street when the cost is shared
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Post by johnno on Jul 30, 2014 14:17:47 GMT
Did a search and output power is limited to 100mW in Europe - well below the power output of your mobile phone.
and if i've read it right its 4000mw in Aus i think the same goes for the states if not higher
no wonder we have rubbish wifi
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Post by Dragon Man on Jul 30, 2014 15:03:36 GMT
Thanks John, you are correct. I googled it and it says Australia's restriction is - 10log10(4000mw) = 36dBm Here is an interesting quote from Wikipedia: Range[edit]See also: Long-range Wi-FiWi-Fi networks have limited range. A typical wireless access point using 802.11b or 802.11g with a stock antenna might have a range of 35 m (115 ft) indoors and 100 m (330 ft) outdoors. IEEE 802.11n, however, can more than double the range.[41] Range also varies with frequency band. Wi-Fi in the 2.4 GHz frequency block has slightly better range than Wi-Fi in the 5 GHz frequency block which is used by 802.11a and optionally by 802.11n. On wireless routers with detachable antennas, it is possible to improve range by fitting upgraded antennas which have higher gain in particular directions. Outdoor ranges can be improved to many kilometers through the use of high gain directional antennas at the router and remote device(s). In general, the maximum amount of power that a Wi-Fi device can transmit is limited by local regulations.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-FiTwo things I notice in that quote: 1. IEEE 802.11 n can more than double the range. 'n' is what I use. and 2. " the maximum amount of power that a Wi-Fi device can transmit is limited by local regulations." That would be what governs your limited output John.
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Post by johnno on Jul 30, 2014 21:26:09 GMT
And the router supplied to me from my provider has no external Ariel
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 23:16:38 GMT
Poor wifi is directly related to HOW MUCH wifi is in the area. If you live in the middle of BFE like ken (just kidding Ken) it will travel father. Us that live in populated areas have way more interference. I can see about 20 wifi routers from my computer. All this really degrades the signal. I have many dead spots in my house. I have to run cat5 to my office, as the signal is just not reliable. I have massive high gain antennas that I use outside to get wifi to my computer when at the scope.
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