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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2014 21:11:50 GMT
Hello Chris, Bit miffed by the whole thing really as very little info and not exactly friendly but it seems my account was deleted for leaving a broadcast unattended. I have apologised as in reality I have done this before while messing around with my setup. That said, I always put a notification of this fact on the broadcast and simply assumed we all did this from time to time to tweak the set up etc. but I must have over done it and for that as I say I have apologised. Anyway lesson learned and let this be a warning, don't break the rules! I doubt I'll catch your broadcast later mate, I've bee up since 4am and I've done about 7 hours driving today so I'm off to the land of nod very soon! Have a good one and get lots of grabs
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2014 11:51:57 GMT
Hello Chris, Bit miffed by the whole thing really as very little info and not exactly friendly but it seems my account was deleted for leaving a broadcast unattended. I have apologised as in reality I have done this before while messing around with my setup. That said, I always put a notification of this fact on the broadcast and simply assumed we all did this from time to time to tweak the set up etc. but I must have over done it and for that as I say I have apologised. Anyway lesson learned and let this be a warning, don't break the rules! I doubt I'll catch your broadcast later mate, I've bee up since 4am and I've done about 7 hours driving today so I'm off to the land of nod very soon! Have a good one and get lots of grabs Sorry dude meant to reply on this... That's odd! So like... cause you went outside to add a barlow or something?? Or did you leave it for like an hour? Cause I regularly leave it to go out for a smoke, play about with the gear, go for food etc lol. Strange you didn't even get a warning tho!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2014 16:42:11 GMT
Hello Chris, No I would never leave it for long periods, 5 maybe 10 minutes max on a couple of occasions. Maybe you just ain't been caught yet but if you want avoid the same treatment I'd suggest closing the broadcast if you think you'll be a while and the restarting when you're ready. I had no warning and had no idea what the problem was until about two weeks after I enquired. The message back was short and to the point, don't leave your broadcast unattended again, ever! I understand the rules of course and why it would not be good to leave a broadcast unattended but setting up was part of my show. Doing an alignment to some would be interesting. I also have a camera on the scope and sometimes broadcast myself at the scope doing bits and bobs. Anyway it is what it is and I now know next time I broadcast to better prepared with better planning
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2014 16:57:42 GMT
Heinz went to sleep and left his broadcast unattended for almost 2 hours..He even put up a message "Went to sleep, be back in a bit" LOL. I would think Jim to be a reasonable person. But 5-10 min does not seem reasonable to me. Is it possible he mistakenly meant to ban someone else?
I personally see no issue in going to brew a cup or take a leak while broadcasting as an issue. But I do understand the reason for the rule, as you don't want someone leaving up an allsky broadcast running 24 hours a day using up the bandwidth.
I would say you are one of the premium broadcasters on NSN, and to ban you without warning IMO is strange. I would send Jim a note asking for an explanation. It would miff me also!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2014 22:23:15 GMT
Heinz went to sleep and left his broadcast unattended for almost 2 hours..He even put up a message "Went to sleep, be back in a bit" LOL. I would think Jim to be a reasonable person. But 5-10 min does not seem reasonable to me. Is it possible he mistakenly meant to ban someone else? I personally see no issue in going to brew a cup or take a leak while broadcasting as an issue. But I do understand the reason for the rule, as you don't want someone leaving up an allsky broadcast running 24 hours a day using up the bandwidth. I would say you are one of the premium broadcasters on NSN, and to ban you without warning IMO is strange. I would send Jim a note asking for an explanation. It would miff me also! Thanks Hemmi, That is interesting and I can state categorically I never left a broadcast unattended for 2 hours but that is hilarious!! To be honest I am quite narked by the whole experience. I would never intentionally break the rules and I'm very respectful and even more so in this scenario due to the fact this is a free service. That said I did not sign up to NSN because it was free. I do not want from no one. If NSN charged I would have paid as the truth is I enjoy immensely sharing the experience as does every broadcaster on there. Thank you for your comments they are very much appreciated! I would not say I have a particularly special broadcast although this is something I'm aiming for. I do however feel I make an effort to make it as interesting as possible working with several cameras. I'm not entirely sure what the issue was but the fact is my account was removed without warning and with little explanation and quite frankly I am totally bemused by it all. Anyway, politics asides, currently I'm holidaying in Cornwall and back to basics with the ED80 on a camera tripod, no cameras, no Goto and no broadcasting! Thanks again Hemmi!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2014 23:08:19 GMT
Karl I have not known you to leave a broadcast unless you are out adjusting things, how else could I abuse you live and great shows you produce. I can only think this is an error? Keep up the good work and enjoy the holiday!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2014 7:22:20 GMT
Karl I have not known you to leave a broadcast unless you are out adjusting things, how else could I abuse you live and great shows you produce. I can only think this is an error? Keep up the good work and enjoy the holiday!!! Thank you Carlos very much appreciated and no one gives better abuse than the Jackal Hasta Luego me Amigo!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2014 13:21:30 GMT
Yep very strange indeed!! Would love some clarification from Jim on this! I would like to know where the line is so I don't get banned
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Post by Dragon Man on Jun 3, 2014 14:03:04 GMT
I can understand the rule covering unattended Broadcasts. About a year or so ago someone left their broadcast unattended and we were all asking questions with no answers coming, and the Lunar Image slowly drifted off the screen leaving us with a black image (wow, that was exciting). About 15 minutes later the broadcaster came back and said his good-nights and turned off the broadcast But yeah, even I disappear for a minute or two when broadcasting to make a coffee, or have a quick leak. There must be a time limit.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2014 19:34:35 GMT
I have to agree that watching a black screen is not very interesting, and trust me I know. While dodging clouds and solar broadcasting I can have a black screen for 20 minutes while big clouds pass. I have recently discovered though, that if I crank up the exposures with the Sammy 4000 I can almost punch through the clouds and see the proms, so all is not lost. Its only the Darkest clouds that I can't defeat. I think its just a matter of common sense, and not being away from your broadcast too long. I was lurking a broadcast last night before I went to bed, and had to actually log on just to tell the broadcaster to cease the show when I heard him say he would leave it on while he went and did some work. I explained what might happen and he ended the show immediately. He's always online, and would be gutted to get banned.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2014 23:36:34 GMT
Hi Ken/Allan,
I understand the rules and agree with them as I too would not be happy to tune in wondering what was going on. I have stated that quite clearly already and have apologised to Jim. Fact is though I knew about the rule and was conscious of it and never left a broadcast for longer than I myself felt was excessive but it might be on the odd occasion I left it too long I don't know but we are missing the point here. The fact is I do not think I ever took the liberty to warrant getting banned without warning, and with the response which quite frankly made me feel like a naught school child!! No explanation, just simply and I quote, "don't leave your broadcast unattended again, ever". Sorry guys I am not saying I don't agree as I do and I whole heatedly agree but seriously did I deserve to have my account deleted without warning and then get the cold response I got? I don't think so and I do not think anyone would if they too had the same experience.
That said I think enough has been said on the matter. I have been warned and and now so have you.
I would ask the moderators to close this thread ASAP. The thread was started as a genuine plea for help as I had no clue why I could not access NSN. Now I know as do you and it's time to move on. NSN is a fantastic website which we all enjoy and this thread is unfortunately giving the wrong impression.
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Post by davy on Jun 3, 2014 23:51:51 GMT
Agreed ..a question was asked and answers and views were given..like any site it has it's rules and sometimes it may be or feel unfair but a good outcome with jim sorting things out in karls favour..many thanks jim..davy
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2014 0:02:59 GMT
Agreed ..a question was asked and answers and views were given..like any site it has it's rules and sometimes it may be or feel unfair but a good outcome with jim sorting things out in karls favour..many thanks jim..davy Thanks Davy, please close the thread if you can as all that needed to be said has been said and it's time to move on. I reiterate NSN is amazing and one possibly self inflicted bad experience should NOT be taken as the norm as this is simply not the case.
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