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Post by davy on Jul 1, 2017 11:07:11 GMT
www.hackster.io/lagsilva/pan-tilt-controlled-by-cell-phone-e8c3a3?ref=channel&ref_id=424_trending___&offset=57Ok my outlook on this is WOW And here is my thoughts on it. Forget the dinky toys on display and think bigger, big enough for this to hold a DSLR camera and lens sitting on a platform or a standard tripod. Big wow Still not finished 😀 Now use Google sky map app on your phone 😀 Link your DSLR to a computer ,, canon utilities or byeos HELLO,, this is quite near now. But let's go bigger,, how good would this be if you could hold a small refractor scope . Ok I'm officially crazy 😂
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Post by Dragon Man on Jul 1, 2017 12:33:33 GMT
I wouldn't trust it for accuracy. But it's clever.
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Post by davy on Jul 1, 2017 21:18:37 GMT
I think it would be good for outreach..
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Post by johnno on Jul 1, 2017 22:01:18 GMT
I don't think it's any different from me using sky safari Pro with my tablet to control my mount and if I want to use my dslr camera I use the app on my phone or tablet but there again my dslr as wifi
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Post by howie1 on Jul 1, 2017 22:58:24 GMT
Hmmm, I could imagine lying back in the reclining camp chair, wide field f/1.4 50mm lens connected to a asi290 or similar mounted on that arduino thing ... but here's the clincher ... and the smartphone app connected to google glass or similar 3D device. Wherever I turn my head ... I see the sky in colour! The ultimate NV.
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Post by ChrisV on Jul 2, 2017 1:32:48 GMT
That's actually very neat !!! I've had a go at the zwo software to view on an android device. It doesn't stack but you can do long exposures.
So with this ardino you could point the phone and view on the phone.
Next project ? Maybe use a 290/224 and stick a camera lens on it.
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Post by ChrisV on Jul 2, 2017 2:23:22 GMT
I wonder what sort of weight it can carry ? Maybe it would be better with the other pan/tilter you pointed out on ebay ?
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Post by davy on Jul 2, 2017 9:11:37 GMT
I don't think it's any different from me using sky safari Pro with my tablet to control my mount and if I want to use my dslr camera I use the app on my phone or tablet but there again my dslr as wifi Hi John What DSLR are you using that has WiFi,, I had looked at the WiFi cards for the canon cameras​ I have
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Post by davy on Jul 2, 2017 9:29:53 GMT
It's a bit of fun I think, bit of impromptu observing ,for one of those nights you just can't be bothered setting​ up a full kit. Or a bit of quick outreach.
I like the idea of a quick set up and just pointing the phone to sections of the sky and just watch and see what a camera can pick up,, ok it would be nice to have tracking on it,, possible someone could expand on the concept.
Chris I think a board can could work on initial pan and tilt or maybe a watec 902h would be my choice. Wouldn't take much to make a bigger pan and tilt cradle and fit a couple of better torque stepper motors.
I don't think there is a great deal of money in the project and a lot of folks are using arduino circuit's in observatory builds,, rain and cloud sensors for roof automation. I'm going to buy an arduino kit and give it a go after I get my laser working.
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Post by davy on Jul 2, 2017 9:32:39 GMT
Hmmm, I could imagine lying back in the reclining camp chair, wide field f/1.4 50mm lens connected to a asi290 or similar mounted on that arduino thing ... but here's the clincher ... and the smartphone app connected to google glass or similar 3D device. Wherever I turn my head ... I see the sky in colour! The ultimate NV. I like your thoughts on this,, heads up display,,😀
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Post by Dragon Man on Jul 2, 2017 12:22:04 GMT
Hmmm, I could imagine lying back in the reclining camp chair, wide field f/1.4 50mm lens connected to a asi290 or similar mounted on that arduino thing ... but here's the clincher ... and the smartphone app connected to google glass or similar 3D device. Wherever I turn my head ... I see the sky in colour! The ultimate NV. That would be fun! VR Goggles! I have some. I have a ball moving my head about looking around inside Caves, haunted Houses, and all sorts of hilarious VR rooms. Real time Space would be excellent by simply using my phone!!! Great idea Howie!
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Post by ChrisV on Jul 2, 2017 12:55:41 GMT
I've got an arduino gyroscope sensor. Could stick it on my forehead. That could drive the pan and tilt.
But then again I'd just end up looking like Rimmer.
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Post by davy on Jul 2, 2017 13:05:03 GMT
I joined the arduino site and sent the chap a message saying I was intrested in the concept and put our forum link in,,i don't know if the chap still visits that site.. ive been intrested in doing arduino for a while but never saw something I wanted to do.. I ordered a arduino uno r3 for £5.69 ouch ,,the 1 sheed android version is £63,,, skip that I thought,, need to look into other versions available and do more research
priced the rest of the kit up and the full kit made would come in at about £90
if the module that interfaces with the android phone was cheaper this would be a very cheap bit of kit..to experiment on..once you have all the controller done I believe with a bit of tinkering you could have a really nice tool for astronomy
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Post by davy on Jul 2, 2017 13:44:44 GMT
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Post by Dragon Man on Jul 2, 2017 14:03:37 GMT
I notice that all the Arduino devices show the phone help up vertically. I wonder if they work with the phone Horizontally. I am one of the people who constantly complains on You Tube videos that are recorded vertically. Stupidest method ever! It leaves a giant unused band down each side of a ridiculously narrow view. TV's, laptops, desktops, theatre screens, VR devices (which actually use mobile phones) etc. are all Horizontal. But these Millenials/Gen Y cohorts use stupid excuses like "it's too hard to hold the phone sideways" and "I only watch TV and movies on my phone, which is vertical" (haven't they ever thought to tip it sideways) Even the human eyes and brain see in panoramic view. Not bloody Vertical. We have peripheral vision, not Vertical. For human eyes and brain the combined visual field is 200–220° horizontal, but only 130–135° vertical. If I was to place my phone into a VR headset (without the 3d lenses) it would be horizontal, so 'vertically only' would be totally useless.
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Post by davy on Jul 2, 2017 14:50:47 GMT
I notice that all the Arduino devices show the phone help up vertically. I wonder if they work with the phone Horizontally. I am one of the people who constantly complains on You Tube videos that are recorded vertically. Stupidest method ever! It leaves a giant unused band down each side of a ridiculously narrow view. TV's, laptops, desktops, theatre screens, VR devices (which actually use mobile phones) etc. are all Horizontal. But these Millenials/Gen Y cohorts use stupid excuses like "it's too hard to hold the phone sideways" and "I only watch TV and movies on my phone, which is vertical" (haven't they ever thought to tip it sideways) Even the human eyes and brain see in panoramic view. Not bloody Vertical. We have peripheral vision, not Vertical. For human eyes and brain the combined visual field is 200–220° horizontal, but only 130–135° vertical. If I was to place my phone into a VR headset (without the 3d lenses) it would be horizontal, so 'vertically only' would be totally useless. moan,,moan,,moan....lol
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Post by davy on Jul 2, 2017 15:51:35 GMT
ordered the arduino nano and the Bluetooth module and 9v battery to dc plug probably came to about £11 inc postage.... link for the software is active..wiring diagram a doddle ..just the coding to worry about...famous last words
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Post by davy on Jul 2, 2017 16:24:11 GMT
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Post by ChrisV on Jul 3, 2017 0:56:05 GMT
I joined the arduino site and sent the chap a message saying I was intrested in the concept and put our forum link in,,i don't know if the chap still visits that site.. ive been intrested in doing arduino for a while but never saw something I wanted to do.. I ordered a arduino uno r3 for £5.69 ouch ,,the 1 sheed android version is £63,,, skip that I thought,, need to look into other versions available and do more research priced the rest of the kit up and the full kit made would come in at about £90 if the module that interfaces with the android phone was cheaper this would be a very cheap bit of kit..to experiment on..once you have all the controller done I believe with a bit of tinkering you could have a really nice tool for astronomy Ouch the 1sheeld is pricy. But is has a hell of a lot of stuff, and the routines are already done to put on the phone. And the phone stuff is the harder bit. So if you weren't going with the 1sheeld then as you have done, think of another way of inputting xyz co-ordinates to control the pan/tilt. One simple way would be a joystick - they have standard interfacing to arduino. And there's other options like the gyroscope sensor. They are not massively accurate, but should be OK. I fiddled with a gyro on my first scope (a 5" F5 newt) and it was nearly accurate enough - so it should be fine when using a camera at much shorter focal lengths
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Post by howie1 on Jul 3, 2017 3:48:00 GMT
I don't think it's any different from me using sky safari Pro with my tablet to control my mount and if I want to use my dslr camera I use the app on my phone or tablet but there again my dslr as wifi Hi John What DSLR are you using that has WiFi,, I had looked at the WiFi cards for the canon cameras​ I have davy, Quite a few of the recent Canons have wifi connections which allow full LiveView as well as full camera control from either a PC or tablet or iPad type device. The cheapest is (I think) the 750D. Then prices jumped to the 6D (I think it was). And all the expensive full frame 35mm sensored ones have it too. I looked at the 750 and 6D a couple of years back, but ended up buying a 700D. At the time I was thinking "Nah, I don't need any fancy WiFi BS"! LOL! Wish I had! Also, the wifi memory cards (as far as I know) only allow the images to transfer to your PC or smart device. It's one-way so you can't control the camera from the PC or smart device, only receive the images. I've got one in my Nikon J2 which I've played with for astro stuff. Cheers Howie
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