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Post by davy on Feb 2, 2017 0:25:32 GMT
Question for any techy
My question is, if I got one of these and fitted a canon DSLR to it downloaded byeos/astrotoaster into the pc stick,, used Bluetooth keyboard and a small screen Q1... Would it work Q2 Could it be controlled via WiFi with remote desktop ect.
I have asked in byeos forum if byeos would loading to pc stick,, hopefully someone as daft as me can have an answer
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Feb 3, 2017 12:23:07 GMT
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Post by ChrisV on Feb 3, 2017 12:23:07 GMT
Davy
I've just got a compute stick. It sits at the scope with a USB hub that takes camera inputs to it. Have put sharpcap and phd2 on it. They works really well (better than my laptop as the stick has usb3). I run it remotely via wifi using Remote desktop. So the remote device can be a pc, mac, ipad.
I assume eos utilities and AT would be okay. I'm away for a few days but will have a look at that next week.
The main thing is that you need a good strong home wifi.
I'll give you the details of the pc stick I got. And I've got an extra 64k microSD card. But the 32k on the stick is largely enough unless you are going to pile up pics on it. There's a few good threads on CN which explain it all. But glad to help you if I can.
Chris
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Post by davy on Feb 3, 2017 12:30:23 GMT
Brilliant Chris,, would be good to go wireless and it looks a good idea
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Post by ChrisV on Feb 6, 2017 8:12:37 GMT
Davy I got an STK1AW3SC. IT has windows10 installed, HDMI video out, usb2, usb3, and is powered through a usb. You can get a 32 or 64GB microSD to beef up the drive memory. I haven't done this yet. To set it up, I plug in a keyboard/mouse. and plug it into a TV via the HMDI. Download the software you want (I've got sharpcap and PHD2 so far). And delete all the crap that just uses memory and processor time. Then you need to install RDPwrap, so that you can use remote desktop on your other computer. github.com/stascorp/rdpwrap/releasesInstall that and then connect the PCstick to your home wifi. GIve the PCstick a sensible name and then you'll be able to find it easily on your home network. Then you can have it at your scope (no keyboard/mouse/HDMI display used now) I have a USB3 hub at my computer. I got one that can be powered by 12V DC to make it easy. A USB lead from hub to PCstick to power it. I plug my cameras into the USB hub and then that into the USB3 on the stick. Best to do this as I'm not sure how much power to cameras the PCstick can provide. So the hub acts as a hub (duh) and provides power to evrything. Then you can run remote desktop from your PC. You can also download for Mac or ipad and do from there.
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Feb 6, 2017 10:54:46 GMT
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Post by davy on Feb 6, 2017 10:54:46 GMT
Sounds a winner😃😃
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Post by davy on Feb 10, 2017 0:18:01 GMT
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Post by ChrisV on Feb 11, 2017 1:32:40 GMT
One thing I'm now realising with the compute stick. The first gen ones with 2GB memory might not be enough if using a DSLR. Might need something with 4GB. So don't jump into it - I'm still trying to sort it.
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Post by davy on Feb 11, 2017 10:52:27 GMT
Hi Chris it's the mk2 that's advertised in uk , 4gb of ram
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Post by ChrisV on Feb 28, 2017 3:59:23 GMT
I've also been testing the 4GB stick. I can get it to run EOS utilities and astrotoaster. Its not too bad.
The main problem with the stick, as you've probably seen on the CN threads, is the wifi. The stick puts out a crappy signal and unless its close and fairly unobstructed to your router the connection is poor. I think there's also problems with the connection speed. I'm trying a few alternatives and watching the CN thread for any bright ideas.
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Post by robrj on Feb 28, 2017 14:45:43 GMT
I use the Intel Computestick as well. It works for my setup. I run Starlight Live, Sharpcap (both capturing), Stellarium, Stellarium Scope, and APT with Astrotortilla for plate solving. I use a 6 port Cirago USB 3.0 hub. The hub has two 2A charging ports, one of which powers the stick. That allows me to hook up multiple stuff (mount, two cameras, USB filter wheel) and only have one power cord running to the mount. My best reception is on the eyepiece tray but running all those wires is a challenge to avoid tangles when the scope slews.
You can use bluetooth keyboards but you'll need a wired keyboard to set it up as you have to log in the first time to turn on the bluetooth and pair the keyboard.
I tried remoting it this past weekend but it loses the connection. It's also sensitive to positioning it. If anything on the scope blocks it, it looses connection. My tube is rather big so finding a spot that doesn't interfere with the tube's swing or allows the tube to come between the computer and anything that connects to it (bluetooth keybaord) will block the signal.
My current setup just uses a 24" TV which connects via hard wire to the HDMI port. An option for the WIFI problem might be an USB Wifi stick.
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Post by ChrisV on Mar 29, 2017 23:10:38 GMT
I've added a wifi usb to the PC stick. Its a lot better, but still a little variable at times. I had it running sharpcap and PHD2 the other night - two USB3 cameras into the stick via a USB3 hub. Pic attached. If the wifi remote gets a bit hairy, I run the viewing camera through a USB extension cable. The problem with using the extension cable is that its USB2 and the computer won't recognise multiple USB3 cameras via the USB3 hub and USB2 extension cable. So, I run the main viewing camera via the USB extension and let the PC stick run the guiding camera (and check that remotely via the wifi). When the wifi works, it works really well. I even got it running astrotoaster running on top of sharpcap and PHD2. It takes about 10sec to process each new image onto the stack - that's with 16MB raws so might be much better with smaller files. The thing is, its quite fast compared to my laptop as it has a USB3 port.
Edit. Just realised that the ASI071 has a USB hub on it. So I can probably do away with the USB hub I have on the setup.
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robrj
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Post by robrj on Mar 30, 2017 18:56:33 GMT
Have you ever tried depositing the files into a network share folder? Share a folder on your laptop and connect to it with the stick. Then set up Sharpcap's working directory to the share. Sharpcap deposits it's files to the share drive and then use Astrotoaster to process the files on your local computer. You could have two separate stacking programs working at the same time and compare the image results.
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Mar 30, 2017 21:46:34 GMT
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Post by ChrisV on Mar 30, 2017 21:46:34 GMT
I tried stacking in sharpcap on the stick and saving individual raws on remote computer for astrotoaster. But couldn't get it to save there. Didn't try hard - probably some weird windows thing. I've always used macs and am just coming to terms with a pc now.
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