M 74 is the weakest surface brightness galaxy in the Messier catalog. Visually it is a difficult object, very difficult in the polluted skies we have.
This is the result of dealing with Startools with a photograph taken with 15x25 "exposures with the Risingcam software. Maximum gain and other default parameters. As usual I use a UVIR filter to fine tune the brightest stars.
Despite all the software and hardware improvements , we, ( VA), do still need a bit of help with post processing to get pleasing images of those very dim galaxies . That is a big improvement with 4 minutes of post processing Carlos. Around 10 minutes total time. Well worth the time spent. cheers Paul
I think what you are doing is very necessary for the dim objects Carlos. Ten minutes is still technically still Near Live Viewing. Even with the Rasa and some sensitive cameras, a lot of dim objects are still very dim and need a bit of help from the likes of Startools or Astrotoaster. On Astrotoaster it only takes a minute or two to do some basic stuff and generally makes a big difference to the result. I aim to learn the basics of Startools . I think VA benefits from a small amount of time spent post processing for certain dim objects .For astrophotography,the minimum time spent on images seems to be about 3 hours which is a long way from what you are doing Carlos . A couple of minutes post processing is not AP and not strictly VA, but it does need to be slotted in somewhere. A couple of minutes post processing should belong in VA in my opinion.
I know this has been discussed ad nauseum and am not really seeking further general opinion... (although I am sure I will get it),but the question is a little more specific than previous
As Moderator, Davy, are you comfortable with a few minutes of post processing? cheers Paul
I like to respect the rules do not go to think that I am an antisystem.
But in my opinion we have imposed too much on this of Video Astronomy. I do not care if it is live view or if there is a subsequent processing and a multitude of more or less strict rules that we see in other Forums.
For me it is about seeing (and collect) invisible objects with the naked eye in the easiest and cheapest way possible from my home. If you have to post process the images, then they are post processed!
I'd rather see the result on my home computer screen than live at night. I like comfort and I don't like competitions at all.
Startools allows me to take full advantage of the weak signals that I get every night and I can enjoy objects that I would never have dreamed of seeing with acceptable quality and detail. That's enough for me
Unlike other Video Astronomy Forums, we DO have a section for post-processed images.
That's the good thing about this Forum, you can post images at any level.
We have sections for: - Live Video (no stacking) Lunar/Planetary Live Video usually falls into this category - Live Video up to 30 second frames with up to 5 stacks (quick captures) This category often covers bright star clusters and very bright Nebulae - Near Live Video for images consisting of exposures and stacks adding up to a maximum of 10 minutes total The stuff many of us do - Astrophotography for images captured using longer exposures, many stacks, post-processing. 'Anything goes' here.
Feel free to post at any level of capture. There's a section for it. Look in the 'VIDEO ASTRONOMY IMAGES' section on the Home Page
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Guy's it's your forum,, as ken says we have slots for all types of captures,, we are different from other forums because we don't get our knickers in a twist about things,, we've all been here a while,, nobody to impress. We are here to help folk.. We all know things have changed since the analogue days,, equipment changed ,, software changed,, we change with it. Well apart from the name,,lol,, think we will stay with video astronomy forum lol.
Eaa ,, well we leave that to the big boys to argue over.. Just have fun guys,, it's a hobby 😁
I don't have a problem with any images that get posted up,, Like others I'm interested in how you got them What type of scope would I need to achieve this standard of image. What camera and settings were used.
Great looking at images,, but for learner's this is what they want,,, me as well of course.. We all see the images on websites and forums with very little info on how to get this type of image,, like a secret society at times,, all secrets so nobody can outshine them.. I'm totally against that,, this is why I decided to build this,, so there isn't any constraints,, folk have freedom of expression here.
Doing the workflow is very helpful Carlos. I have been putting a few of my past images through Startools over the last few days while the weather is bad. My results havent been very good so far but they are on the improve. The workflow keeps me on track. cheers Paul