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Post by howie1 on Jan 23, 2019 11:34:38 GMT
Also, there are no instructions or manual shipped with it and all the info on their site is for the R2. Any helpful info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! See the link down below from RI website ... link has further links in that page for downloading ToupSky which some members on here have used and will probably chime in. Or further down in that link a link to install ASCOM drivers to use SharpCap (so you'll have to also find SharpCaps software google it) ... if you wish to use Sharpcap that is. I think I posted a link earlier in one of your posts metro which was to a CN forum post with sharpcap users guide developed by one of the members. Will leave it up to you to hunt thru your posts here to find that. If you cant find it letme know and Ill hunt it dwon from that forum for you. Cheers link for RI software for 224 camera
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Post by Dragon Man on Jan 23, 2019 14:04:07 GMT
Also, there are no instructions or manual shipped with it and all the info on their site is for the R2. Any helpful info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! The camera has no real need for instructions. Load the disc and install the software if you want to use it. With the camera you just plug it in and it works. What you need instructions for is the capture software you choose to use. That's where the learning begins.
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Post by metro on Jan 23, 2019 19:14:16 GMT
OK, I'm starting to think this wasn't the best route for someone who is brand new to Video Astronomy. On the ToupSky program in the Capture Window, all the drop down stuff, Capture Resolution, Exposure & Gain, Bit Depth etc.etc. etc. I have no idea on this stuff. I guess I'm gonna have to set it up and just start playing with it. Maybe watching the vids on SharpCap will help, all that stuff mentioned above is the same just in a different format right? I just need the explanation (need to study too) on what they do. ETA: I sent Revolution and email inquiring on instructions and they responded saying they had been working on something and sent this to me. I thought it would be good to add here for future searches by beginners. Revolution Advanced IMX imager ToupSky link
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Post by howie1 on Jan 24, 2019 1:08:23 GMT
Hi metro ... Video to help you ... watch the whole 10 minutes worth
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Post by davy on Jan 25, 2019 16:29:04 GMT
OK, I'm starting to think this wasn't the best route for someone who is brand new to Video Astronomy. On the ToupSky program in the Capture Window, all the drop down stuff, Capture Resolution, Exposure & Gain, Bit Depth etc.etc. etc. I have no idea on this stuff. I guess I'm gonna have to set it up and just start playing with it. Maybe watching the vids on SharpCap will help, all that stuff mentioned above is the same just in a different format right? I just need the explanation (need to study too) on what they do. ETA: I sent Revolution and email inquiring on instructions and they responded saying they had been working on something and sent this to me. I thought it would be good to add here for future searches by beginners. Revolution Advanced IMX imager ToupSky linkNothing new there.. the camera settings are going to be different for each user,, and even for different nights of use due to atmospheric conditions,, half the fun is teasing out better detail each time you use the camera.. There will be nights you just want to take the camera off the telescope and launch it right into your neighbours garden.. think it's nearly came to the telescope getting launched as well.. Every day a school day
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Post by elpajare on Jan 25, 2019 18:07:27 GMT
The software of Toupsky / Risingscam is very similar to Mallincam. On the Mallincam website there is a very detailed manual that can help you. I use this software with Risingcam cameras and it has nothing to envy Sharpcap.
Anyway, if you have any specific questions, I will gladly help you as much as I can.
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Post by Dragon Man on Jan 26, 2019 15:04:23 GMT
The software of Toupsky / Risingscam is very similar to Mallincam. On the Mallincam website there is a very detailed manual that can help you. I use this software with Risingcam cameras and it has nothing to envy Sharpcap. Anyway, if you have any specific questions, I will gladly help you as much as I can. It is the exact same software. Touptek makes the software available to all it's camera sellers but they change the name of the software for each seller: 'ToupSky' for Touptek sellers, 'RisingSky' for RisingCam, 'MallincanSky' for Mallincam, 'AltairCapture' for Altair, etc. Fantastic software.
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Post by elpajare on Jan 26, 2019 20:17:52 GMT
Yes, I agrre with you despite in other places Sharpcap seems the best
Im using it during a lot of years and in my opinion is has all the necessary to do his job simply and perfecly
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Post by davy on Jan 26, 2019 20:38:50 GMT
Got to agree sharpcap is a fantastic piece of software and it continues to be a front runner for video and a complete labour of love for robin,, total respect to the time and commitment he puts into it. I've sat back for a while astronomy wise and chilled,, weather has been poor and had I not put a lot of time and money into the hobby could potentially have walked away ,,but we all feel like that at times.
But. I have had a couple of nights observing the moon and have kit set up,, I let my pro licence lapse for sharpcap purely because of lack of use... But have reverted to the free version,,, I have used the zwo software and switch between them.. It's a bit daunting using even the basic sharpcap so many settings to manage,, but it is pointing towards more serious astronomy user's than the zwo software. Been holding out for the dslr features on sharpcap and to compare against backyard eos.. Like to see easier software developed for new astronomers to get more instant results,, sometimes there is just too many adjustment parameters on software.. Some dumb buttons would be good
Moon settings Solar "" Bright dso Ect
Let the object dictate what adjustment parameters can be made would help
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Post by howie1 on Jan 27, 2019 2:32:31 GMT
Like to see easier software developed for new astronomers to get more instant results,, sometimes there is just too many adjustment parameters on software.. Some dumb buttons would be good Moon settings Solar "" Bright dso Ect Let the object dictate what adjustment parameters can be made would help There is davy ... but the software - like most - has lots of sliders to initially set it up those presets ... Adobe Lightroom! I made a video or two on using it with presets n stuff ages back and posted them up (I think). When I started out with LR I was truly like a noob with SharpCap ... totally lost with what sliders to move. But, like everything, with a bit of practise it ended up being pretty good. But LR costs heaps more than SC or AT. Always a gotcha isn't there! I'll see if I can find those vids and post the links up in case anyone is interested. Cheers
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Post by elpajare on Jan 27, 2019 7:52:41 GMT
Allow me a dose of frankness about capture software:
I only adjust the white balance and exposure. Everything else I leave by default!
Subsequent corrections are made at home with my computer and Startools + Gimp.
The idea is not mine, the author of Startools recommends on his page to act as little as possible with the original image of the camera.
The problem of handling capture software is easy to fix. The most difficult thing is to learn how to use postproduction software,haha
Those who do live presentations can not use this method, of course ..
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Post by davy on Jan 27, 2019 9:17:22 GMT
Yes elpajare, moving two sliders would be good for folk new to video astronomy, we all know when you first start in video astronomy,, it's daunting but the mindset is,, It's a video camera,, I point at the object and press record and the camera should do all the work,, eg a smartphone. Given the weather conditions and light pollution ,, I struggle,, on anything other than the moon,, hell even that can be a nightmare,, given that and limited gaps in the weather, it's pretty hard to dial in the right settings for optimal viewing and I'm no the most patient guy on the planet,, bit hard on myself at times lol to get great results. So for the new folk getting into video astronomy there is a learning curve and it can be trying if you are fighting the elements and light pollution.. the best telescopes and cameras don't guarantee results,, experience does and hopefully the cycle of bad weather will break and allow more time to get hands on experience.
I was on the sharpcap forum last night reading through a lot of post's,, the dslr addition is moving along but still a lot of bugs to iron out,, hopefully it will work out ok.
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Post by metro on Feb 17, 2019 23:14:07 GMT
So can I download Sharpcap but use the camera I got in the Revolution Advanced 224 kit instead of the Toupsky program?
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Post by Dragon Man on Feb 18, 2019 10:52:11 GMT
So can I download Sharpcap but use the camera I got in the Revolution Advanced 224 kit instead of the Toupsky program? Yes.
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Post by metro on Feb 19, 2019 10:10:15 GMT
Well I am reading through the Sharpcap manual and it appears for now I need to download it and use that program instead of the ToupSky for now. It looks to be laid out in steps that would be better for a beginner just starting out.
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