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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2013 21:57:36 GMT
Hi all, most if not all cameras we use have an OSD (on screen display) menu with the menu buttons located at the rear of the camera in order to control exposure and all the settings you have to play with but in using them you shake the scope and camera. So whats the solution? If you can solder and happy to take the camera apart you can make a hand controller or you can use Coaxitron control. Coaxitron control allows you to access the OSD menu using the video feed cable without adding any extra cables. The W5 controller has an input cable with BNC plug fitted to connect to the cam side a female BNC to the PC or monitor however these can be easily changed to Phono or what you require. To power the controller it takes 2 X AAA batteries and has a lead to connect to a 12V power source if needed. The controller works great with the Samsung 2000p and any other camera that uses the W5 chip set. Now I can control my meteor cam which is in an all weather casing without taking a screwdriver to it and a laptop from the comfort of the kitchen Would definitely recommend it.
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Post by johnno on Nov 16, 2013 22:16:35 GMT
Carl I saw a thread once [ don't where it was] were someone did a mod like your's where he cut the camera in half and used the 2 halves separately.
he put a long cable length between the 2 halfs so the back half of the camera was now is remote control
Ps. like the mod you did
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2013 22:54:26 GMT
Funny Johnno I was toying with that. There are 14 wires that are needed after discarding the lens control. I was going to do the same thing with a HDMI cable which has 19 wires. Lot of fine solder work but ended up with this one and happens to be the same size as a pelt cooler:)
This would now be easily cooled as the heat sink is the same size as the cam just a controller required.
Carl
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 13:50:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 14:19:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 20:17:03 GMT
Excellent thanks
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 20:38:18 GMT
I think one of these is the way to go, was going to solder a long keypad onto the cam. This seems a lot more flexible if you can connect it anywhere along the cable run. Postage is a little steep at £10 but I guess it is worth it for the ease of use and not destroying the cam with my soldering skills.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 21:00:44 GMT
I think one of these is the way to go, was going to solder a long keypad onto the cam. This seems a lot more flexible if you can connect it anywhere along the cable run. Postage is a little steep at £10 but I guess it is worth it for the ease of use and not destroying the cam with my soldering skills. Hi Cosmic its a brilliant piece of kit, Samsung make a control box as well but its around £100 Yes its a pity about the postage but no one else seems to do them. Carl
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 19:02:41 GMT
So i ordered this over 2 weeks ago and its still not arrived! After paying a tenner for postage lol!
I called them tonight and the dude said its showing as completed on his end so didn't know why i don't have it yet. But he will send out another tomorrow morning with the adapter thing i need. So i might end up with 2 controllers haha.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 19:54:54 GMT
Sounds like they've messed up mine was here in three days an I'm in NI?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2013 21:11:13 GMT
Got it through today Works perfect on the sammy great find Carl! Doesnt work with the ln300 but that was a long shot
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2013 21:56:52 GMT
One step closer to video in the heat Chris
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Post by johnno on Nov 27, 2013 23:32:14 GMT
Carl can this be connected at the grabber at the pc/laptop end with a double connecter or does it have to be connected at the camera end?
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Post by davy on Nov 28, 2013 0:25:40 GMT
Would imagine it could johnno..
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2013 1:31:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2013 11:38:30 GMT
This is how i connect the controller to the capture card/laptop side.
Camera = BNC (F) > {BNC (M) to RCA (F) connector} > RCA (M to M) cable > {BNC (M) to RCA (F) connecter} > Hand controller BNC (F) yellow cable.
Then the Hand controller BNC (M) black cable > {BNC (F) to RCA (M) connector} > Capture card
This is how i connect the controller at the camera side.
Camera = BNC (F) > Hand controller BNC (M) black cable
Then Hand controller BNC (F) yellow cable > {BNC (M) to RCA (F) connector} > RCA (M to M) cable > Capture card
{} = Indicates connector used (M) = Male (F) = Female
Well done if you followed that haha
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2013 20:08:19 GMT
Carl see the W5 chip that makes this work with the scb2000.... What is it? Like what kind of chip is this? is there a name for it?
I want to try find out what chip is in the ln300. Its not that rj-11 thing that i showed in the pics is it?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2013 20:53:26 GMT
Carl see the W5 chip that makes this work with the scb2000.... What is it? Like what kind of chip is this? is there a name for it? I want to try find out what chip is in the ln300. Its not that rj-11 thing that i showed in the pics is it? Hi Chris Im no expert but here goes. Yes the large square black chip labelled RJ 11 is the processor pretty much the same as a computer processor. It controls all the camera functions like the menu etc. When you tell the shutter to go to a different speed or change the colour or any other setting this chip tells the camera to do it. In the Samsung and CR6 (Pro W5) they both use the W5 processor (which was pure fluke). The W5 hand controller is designed to communicate with any camera with a W5 chip. The other thing is the camera must have Coaxitron control which means the hand set has a pathway to communicate with the chip via the coax cable (this involves internal electronics) So the picture comes out of the coax but you can send data into it at the same time, so can send signals both ways. With the LN300 it only has a pathway to talk to its chip via the back buttons so the coax only sends a picture signal out. So the faster the processor in a camera the faster it will integrate etc Coaxitron was designed by Samsung so any camera with a Samsung chip should work. Other cameras like the PD and Samsung 4000 use a 435? port to communicate withe the chip, just a different way of doing it. This may not be 100% but to the best of my working out Hope that helps as my brain hurts!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2013 21:14:05 GMT
Ok nice one so w5 is the processor then thanks. And from what your telling me that means theres no chance of getting a working remote for the ln300. Whats missing? Some circuit board? How does the CR6 have the ability to do it as after your mod it looks like a similar setup i.e. 2 parts connected by wires.
All this means is the sammy is back to being my main camera again haha
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2013 21:40:49 GMT
Chris although they look the same there are 14 wires connecting the back board to the front in the CR6 so Im assumeing a lot of them are communication wires were as the LN is half that between the two.
You could easily make a hand controller for the LN300 Im sure a few of us could help out. The LN is an excellent camera just needs a bit of DIY for remote control.
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