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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 18:12:21 GMT
Wow ! - - - -a new Revolution Imager. I just saw a webpage, showing the new Revolution imager R2.
Has anyone else seen this new imager? I wonder what the difference is from the old one? The body of
the camera is definitely different. Anyone found a spec sheet on this new R2 model?
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Post by davy on May 13, 2016 19:49:33 GMT
Hi,ken has both models of the revolution imager and tests for mike at oc telescope,there are a few differences ,ken..dragonman..will explain more.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 20:44:39 GMT
Just ordered the Revolution R2 imager. I'm an old Stellacam guy, and what probably sold me - - - - -
obviously was the price. I had about $1500 into my black and white stellacam II. How can
anyone, that wants to full around with video astronomy, pass up a deal at $299? Mike was going
to try and get it out today. Can't wait ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Mike (docent)
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Post by ChrisV on May 14, 2016 3:18:39 GMT
This looks entirely different. The casing anyway. What sensor etc is it ?
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Post by Dragon Man on May 14, 2016 6:45:58 GMT
G'day Mike, the new R2 has the great 11811 sensor in it. It also has a simpler menu than the original Revolution Imagers. Because the LN-300 cameras are not made any more Mike at OC Telescope organised for these cameras to be fitted with the new 11811 sensor. Due to software like Sharpcap we no longer need the ability to get looooong exposures. This camera goes up to 5.12 seconds (PAL) which is longer than many are using in Sharpcap. Also, you will find that many settings usually done by PC software can be done internally with this camera like Contrast, Brightness, Hue, etc. Now you can change image settings without the need of a computer for when using a Monitor only. It also has a setting to increase the cameras IR sensitivity! Great for faint Galaxies I will hopefully be getting one to run through its paces soon. I will do a review on it and suggest some good settings for different objects. I'm glad I can finally talk about this camera. Mike Fowler asked me to keep it a secret until it came out
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 0:18:59 GMT
Well, Santa Claus left a box on my doorstep today. I must have been good. I ordered the Revolution R2 last week from Mike at OC, and it was sitting by my door when I got home.
I found Ken's video where he unboxes the Revolution, and I followed along unboxing the R2 equipment.. I layed everything out, and connected all cables, as shown in the video. Turned the camera "ON", and played around the UTC controller. I scrolled through all the menus, and will connect the camera to my Meade LX200GPS this weekend. Looking forward to viewing some galaxies, maybe M51. We have a school outreach in about a week, and will focus on getting that galaxy "tuned in" for all to view.
I'll keep you all updated
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Post by Dragon Man on May 17, 2016 10:15:35 GMT
Great news Mike.
Glad my video could help, even though the video shows the old menu.
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Post by Rick in NWArk on May 17, 2016 19:27:26 GMT
I'm anxious to see some R2 results!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2017 3:11:54 GMT
I can't seem to get the setup I'd like for my R2 and Celestron Evolution scope. I picked up a BNC connector cable after seeing Ken's YouTube video and tried to set up the fix that he described with the hand controller attached closer to the monitor end of the cable. I got the camera/monitor powered up fine but I couldn't get a signal fed from the camera to monitor. Just said "no signal" on the screen.
Either I didn't connect things correctly or I got a bad cable. Just wondering if anyone else has had similar problems or if you could recommend a particular cable that you've used that works.
Thanks
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Post by Dragon Man on Jan 22, 2017 8:39:33 GMT
Marty, if you have connected the cables the way I mentioned it should all work fine.
What I have noticed at some times though is that the connections between the hand controller and the other cables can be a bit dicky at times. I have to twiddle them to make sure there is good contact. Just fiddle with the connections while watching the monitor and see if it helps.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2017 9:02:40 GMT
Hi Marty
Just a wild guess. Take a look at the settings in your monitor - should be PAL-D I think.
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Post by Dragon Man on Jan 22, 2017 10:23:00 GMT
Good Point Robert. It's PAL-B Many Americans fall for that because they are used to using NTSC and not PAL. Yes Marty, set your Camera as PAL-B in the software settings.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2017 20:33:28 GMT
Hey guys! I'm afraid the NTSC/PAL talk is a bit over my head. Either way, I'm not sure that's my problem since while testing it yesterday and today, I subbed in the original cable that came with the R2 kit and it connected to the monitor fine without fiddling with any of the settings. When I use the new cable that I bought, I can't get it to connect. I fiddled with each connection point and not even a flicker, just the "no signal" message staring back at me.
Let me double check that I got this sequence correct, guys. I used the new cable feeding the power and video feeds directly into their respective connection points into the back of the camera. On the other end I have the battery hooked up powering both the monitor and camera. (Full disclosure here, when I got all the scope gear out I use a usb power cable running the camera and monitor off of my Evolution scope's internal battery, not sure that matters as this is a signal issue, not a power issue). Then I connect the other end of the cable video feed into the hand controller port, then attach the BNC adapter to the other side of the hand controller port and into the receiving video cable on the monitor. Does that sound correct?
Right now I'm rooting around my closets and drawers for something else to test the new cable on to see if it's just a bad cable. What further led to my suspicions of a bad cable is the fact that the BNC male adapter was an absolute pain in the *** to detach from the cable as both a BNC male and female adapter came attached at either end of the video cable in the cables packaging. I got it from B and H Photo and I've never had to return anything from them, so I'm a bit surprised. I even tried the connection leaving the hand controller out and their still was no signal from the camera to the monitor.
If you think I should try anything else let me know. I received this cable in the mail on the 10th of January, so, I think I still have a little while before I would have to return or exchange it. As I was looking around I was having a really tough time locating a similar cable unless I was buying one that's 100 feet long (the one I bought was 25 feet). I really don't need anything else that long. Ideally I just want a set up that allows me to place the monitor on a nearby table close to the scope and attach the wired hand controller so that it is also on the table, not dangling from the back of the scope like a wet noodle. Any suggestions on further testing or a comparable cable would be appreciated. By the way, the cable I bought was made by a company called Pearstone and I'm hesitant to try anything else from them.
Thanks for your help, guys!
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Post by davy on Jan 22, 2017 21:02:25 GMT
Let's take a step back,, the camera should be 12volts DC I assume being an CCTV analogue camera,, usually 12v DC or AC . Usb from your power source will be 5 volts.. Connect camera to a 12v dC supply,, car battery/jump pack,, one of your cables I presume may have an RCA plug,, yellow.. plug this to the monitor,, monitor should be 12 v dC as well,, if you can put up pictures of your set up we may be able to help more.
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Post by davy on Jan 22, 2017 21:07:54 GMT
This should be your kit
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Post by davy on Jan 22, 2017 21:17:58 GMT
The battery pack appears to power both the monitor and camera and should be 12 volt DC. The camera has a bnc to the OTC adapter and a bnc cable,then to the RCA of the monitor, if the usb is powering the camera or monitor ,it's under voltage problem, if it is 12v dC I suspect the camera may be at fault,, but unless your TV is pal you won't be able to test this way.. cheapest option to test system would be to buy a usb grabber and link camera to this and into a computer,, I recommend the easycap one,, the pinnacle is also good I've heard,, if it is a camera fault,,buying the usb grabber has just given you the option to capture and save to PC.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2017 21:52:07 GMT
So, I took a few shots of the test rig I have set up in my office. Keep in mind, I had the full scope set-up yesterday and got the same results. So, first is the camera connected via the suggested set up using the original cables and the original 12 volt rechargeable batter that came with the kit. Signal goes through just fine (although I'm not really looking at anything) Next I took the original video cable out and subbed in the new extended dual video/power cable like the one Ken had demonstrated on his youtube video. End result, power is fine to both camera and monitor but there is no signal from camera to monitor. The USB power adapter that I usually use when I have my scope up and running is a part from the "Evo/Revo" kit (see attached link to see what I'm talking about if you're not familiar: . I've used it before with the original kit cables and the camera worked fine. So, I'm pretty sure it's not a power issue. As it stands now, I'll just have to get by with the original cables and have the monitor close at hand with the dangling hand controller. Ideally I'd like to have the hand controller and monitor on a nearby table next to my scope. The USB power adapter just streamlines the set up by just using the scopes internal battery and not the included battery pack that came with the kit.
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Post by davy on Jan 22, 2017 22:47:27 GMT
So all is ok on Your first image,,but you can't see anything,, can you display camera set up menu on the monitor
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Post by davy on Jan 22, 2017 22:52:00 GMT
Ok. Watched the video,, the usb is 5b dC but is a step up to 12v dC,,was unaware these were available,,I would test the output with a multimeter on the 12v dC plug to rule it out,,
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2017 23:21:23 GMT
So all is ok on Your first image,,but you can't see anything,, can you display camera set up menu on the monitor Yes, using the original cable that came with the kit. Like I said, I was simply testing the connection, not actually trying to image anything. So, what you saw in that earlier shot was a wonderful view of the back of the lens cap. Anything in particular that I should be looking for on the set-up menu? As for the multimeter, I don't have one. But thanks for the suggestion anyway.
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