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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2016 14:07:22 GMT
Hi All,
Just a question for the group, has anyone bought and used the 16 bit Atik Infinity Video Camera and its software? Not a cheap camera by any means but some of the various video clips I have seen, the results are impressive, minus the dreaded corner amp glow which is the bane of most low light sensitive video cameras, also the stars are missing the black outline and squareness. I like its integrated auto guider ST4 socket and simple You Tube uploading system. Love to hear see and comments/images from users, good and or not so good.
Clear skies... Shevill
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Post by davy on Mar 19, 2016 14:24:21 GMT
Few guys putting up reports in cloudy nights and no bad reports,chris Appleton/ mallincam tester has used it and done a broadcast and said it was good as well.expensive camera but with it being there first video astronomy camera they will be wanting to recoup some development costs,they are promoting it well and have linked up with video astronomy live to obviously show video astronomers how good it is,have you signed up for val notifications,was a few broadcasts over last couple of days,, nsn.com will be ready to broadcast and no doubt there will be a flood of broadcasting, do you fancy a bit of broadcasting yourself,this forum has built the new nsn.com forum,it may be of intrest to yourself..link on our menu bar..davy
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2016 14:47:38 GMT
Hi Davy,
Thanks for the quick response, one of my main problems down in Tasmania where I live anyway (12km from Hobart city centre) my Internet upload speeds are like two tine cans and a piece of wet string stretched between then. Whenever it rains a lot, the cable pits along the road fill with water and we get very slow or intermittent connections. Pathetic in this day and age. Our present Liberal government has locked us in to a hybrid system of fibre to a box in the street somewhere, with the old copper wires the link (weakest part) to the house, a dogs breakfast compared to the original fibre to the premises under the initial Labor government. I am semi-rural and the last physical connection on old pair sharing copper!!
Clear skies... Shevill
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Post by Dragon Man on Mar 19, 2016 15:28:02 GMT
Yes Shevill, the Libs certainly made a mess of the new NBN system! Labor had the Optic Fibre system all ready to go, but lost the election and Libs came in and set us back another 10 years! Us Aussies have one of the slowest Broadband networks in the world! Fortunately where I live out in the country we didn't get the Fibre Optic/Copper problem. They connected us all by wireless to the towers which are connected by Optic Fibre. Out here we have been on NBN for nearly 2 years already while city folk are still waiting for cables to be laid, and waiting with bated breath for NBN. Well done Liberals! But as for the Atik Infinity, there's been good and bad reports about them. The 'Good' has been about the CCD Imaging quality of the images, and the amazing software package that comes with it. The 'Bad' isn't about the quality of the camera, it is about the length of exposures needed. If you want one for Near-Live observing it is quite slow, and some people mention how they get a bit fed up waiting for a good view during broadcasts. It's faster than traditional CCD imagers, but not fast enough to be called a near-live camera. Analogue still holds that spot. From the examples of Live video I have seen , bright objects like M42 show up very fast and in amazing detail. The problem arises when you want to see fainter objects Live. They require longer exposures than Analogue integrations and some require stacking to bring them out. Some people will love the Infinity because of the fine detail. I believe we aren't far from the day that we can get both a FAST camera AND great resolution.
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Post by davy on Mar 19, 2016 18:16:10 GMT
Nice pick up ken ,I forgot to mention the stacking was used,,was on a hurry taking carol out for dinner,, steak pie...brilliant,,love my steak pie :-)
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Post by davy on Mar 19, 2016 18:21:56 GMT
I dont have broadband over in my flat because I cant justify paying it when 90% of the time im visiting carol, I use my mobile phone internet,it skips from 3g to 4g and the provider has capped my tethered limit to 12gb a month..
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2016 0:44:13 GMT
Yes Shevill, the Libs certainly made a mess of the new NBN system! Labor had the Optic Fibre system all ready to go, but lost the election and Libs came in and set us back another 10 years! Us Aussies have one of the slowest Broadband networks in the world! ;-| Fortunately where I live out in the country we didn't get the Fibre Optic/Copper problem. They connected us all by wireless to the towers which are connected by Optic Fibre. Out here we have been on NBN for nearly 2 years already while city folk are still waiting for cables to be laid, and waiting with bated breath for NBN. Well done Liberals! B-| But as for the Atik Infinity, there's been good and bad reports about them. The 'Good' has been about the CCD Imaging quality of the images, and the amazing software package that comes with it. The 'Bad' isn't about the quality of the camera, it is about the length of exposures needed. If you want one for Near-Live observing it is quite slow, and some people mention how they get a bit fed up waiting for a good view during broadcasts. It's faster than traditional CCD imagers, but not fast enough to be called a near-live camera. Analogue still holds that spot. From the examples of Live video I have seen , bright objects like M42 show up very fast and in amazing detail. The problem arises when you want to see fainter objects Live. They require longer exposures than Analogue integrations and some require stacking to bring them out. Some people will love the Infinity because of the fine detail. Hi Ken, Many thanks for your comments, very helpful, I had an inquiry from a fellow astronomy with a 16" scope in an observatory who is looking for some feedback re this particular camera. It is a lot of money to spend and he is doing the right thing and asking questions. I also posted the same question on several global astro FB sites but so far no feedback, other than ref. to CN.
I agree, it will not be long before we get even better real time video cams without amp glow and with smart software-it has come a long way since my first video cam projects in the late 1980's, I just about have a museum collection that marks the history of video/computers used for astronomy. Cold and cloudy down our way, had some great skies during the day but as darkness falls, so in rolls the cloud cover!!
Kind Regards, Shevill
I believe we aren't far from the day that we can get both a FAST camera AND great resolution.
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Post by ChrisV on Mar 20, 2016 4:58:13 GMT
But Ken. While our Internet might be the slowest in the world, it's the most expensive.
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Post by Dragon Man on Mar 20, 2016 7:52:42 GMT
But Ken. While our Internet might be the slowest in the world, it's the most expensive. Yes, sadly true
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Post by johnno on Mar 20, 2016 12:16:21 GMT
I had a very brief play with the clubs last Tuesday night married up to a C11 in a Observatory for about 10 minutes I quite liked it, the software is quite simple to use a few clicks and your up and running which I think is nice for someone new to EAA compared to something like Miloslick or the Dsm software which is a lot more advanced with all the features in it. I don't like the layout of the histogram I think that could do with refining, the more experience users might like a few more options. I really can't give anything more constructive about it.
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